rotax 912 overhaul cost

It should be more reliable, get better fuel economy, more power and you are going to end up rebuilding the 2-stroke a couple of times. The "O" rings will be cracked. H. Paul Shuch is a Light Sport Repairman with Maintenance ratings for airplanes, gliders, weight shift control, and powered parachutes, as well as an independent Rotax Maintenance Technician at the Heavy Maintenance level. I think it likely that a new engine may be a better/cost effective option. I'm basing some of this on that most LSA owners seem to be flying about 75-100 hrs. Rotax carbs don't get rebuilt after 200 hrs. Re: Rotax 912 overhaul cost? All parts are replaced including the crankshaft, which is completely overhauled … Thanks for the information. US made and combines copper, aluminium and graphite lubricant blends so is electrically conductive, corrosion, salt, Having looked at costs to own a plane (shouldn't really do that anyway) The Rotax whilst higher initial outlay works out cost effective. Going 914 feels like stepping back in … by shasta » Mon Oct 10, 2011 2:19 am, Post 33 minutes ago, Kyle Communications said: On 31/08/2020 at 2:29 PM, facthunter said. skippydiesel, By Having looked at costs to own a plane (shouldn't really do that anyway) The Rotax whilst higher initial outlay works out cost effective. Fewer rebuilds and so much less fuel and oil. There is no time limit in any Rotax manual or SB to rebuild a carb. Engine. by drseti » Mon Oct 10, 2011 10:36 am, Post The quotes I have received vary by $3k, on the base engine module I referred to. I know I would rather take my chances with a high time 912, which I was monitoring closely. My engine is at 1045 Hobbs. It's easy! Most of the information I have seen shows the 912 being much cheaper than the 2-stroke anyway when you take a 912 at 1500 hours and a 582 at the same number. The experimental folks aren't required to do a rebuild. From Floods, the importer, and one happy to sit on the phone and answer all your pesky questions and provide advice : but that is without  radiator, oil radiator, exhaust system, airbox, prop plate etc etc. The prices I am using are for the base engine, plus some odd bits & pieces that you may or may not want to use if you are replacing (eg cooling system top tank, exhaust stubs, etc)  as supplied by every Rotax dealer (you also get a costed accessory list, that does not form part of the base cost). I like Paul's suggestion. Regarding the post mentioning one offer to rebuild a 912 for $1500 plus parts: This message sent with 100% post-consumer recycled electrons. per page . You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Plugging that number into Rotax’s data reveals a to-TBO cost savings of about $13,000—not quite the total overhaul nut, but no trivial sum, either. Flight schools get to their TBO's much quicker than the private owner and that is a good way to keep engines rotated. Greg, a friend just rebuilt his 912 80hp. $3k is $3k (that was delivered + GST) - I guess a person needs to make a judgement on what is is most important in their situation. Back when I bought my CTSW it didn't take me long to figure out that selling a 3/4 run out 912 would be a better deal than rebuilding it. rotax-914-ul-f. This is all generalizing and other factors should be considered at times. But the lower initial outlay, doesn't nescessarily mean lower cost to own. The company says this fleet of four stroke engines has now logged more than 40 million flight hours — not even counting many more from the older two-stroke line* — and is presently adding 5 million flight hours every year. Rotax 912/914 and now 915 are expensive, compared with Jab's but in my, completely biased, view you gets what you pays for and if you read any of the erlier comments not $35K. I am not sure what you mean by getting the "head's done" - if I felt an overall was necessary & cost effective I would replace in/outlet valves, possibly springs,bore honed,  pistons (& rings), all oil & coolant seals and probably have the carburettors reconditioned & alliterated - there may also be other stuff. Second hand 912's are eagerly sought after..... no matter the hours and condition. By 2014, Rotax had delivered 50,000 of these engines. How about "is hard for me to understand". Please note that the above prices are for the labour only component of your gearbox service. At 2000 hrs, I'll swap the engines, and then advertise the old one on eBay Motors. It had a prop strike and I know they decided to replace the crank along with the rebuild (it did not have a slipper clutch obviously). Even good stuff can be demolished by barbarians but bad stuff does it by itself if it EVER worked properly at anytime. 200 hours surprised me as well. I believe it was $10,000.00 with the crank. The Line maint. Simko flew … H. Paul Shuch is a Light Sport Repairman with Maintenance ratings for airplanes, gliders, weight shift control, and powered parachutes, as well as an independent Rotax Maintenance Technician at the Heavy Maintenance level. $15357.00. The purchasers choice to add or not, a host of options, in whatever configuration they choose, can not be used as a logical comparison (too may variables). 81HP @ 5800 RPM (max 5 min) 79HP @ 5500 RPM (sustained) 75.9 ft-lb @ 4800 RPM. time frame and more. I was wondering about what it would cost to overhaul a 912ul or a 912uls. by roger lee » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:23 am, Post Either the Rotax 912 ULS or iS should be your choice (if you can afford the extra cost, a Rotax is a no-brainer). ASTM compliant. 912. This series offers a time between overhauls of 2.000 hrs and is available as certified (Rotax 914 F) according to FAR 33 and JAR-E and non-certified version (Rotax 914 UL). You have the currency, I have said Europe (that where Rotax comes from). It could be higher or lower..usually its lower lately so it cost more. So engine, electrics, ducting, cooling, instruments was around 20k. We charge approximately £1,500 - £2,000 labour for a shortblock rebuild. Now that is eye watering & he still has a 45 year old plane. but then you dont deserve any local service.... Freight from Europe is very expensive also from the USA at the moment. So of course you have taken the exchange rate difference..the real difference not what you see on the idiot box on the news..the actual rate you get from the bank or the forex mob you use then added the freight cost and import paperwork cost then added 10% to the lot. August 27, 2020 in Engines and Props. If you figure you can get another 1000 hours, before you need to do anything, you would probably be much better off than using a 582 financially. That's not much time at 100 hours a year! Simko is a seasoned backcountry/alpine pilot. The new 912 UL S is a 100 HP* version of the certified 81 HP 912 engine, with the same external dimensions as the standard Rotax 912. OK, I have looked at my price quote from Floods, but that is without  radiator, oil radiator, exhuast system, airbox, prop plate etc etc. If it is only 200 hrs in 2 years and up to 800 in 5-6 years you'll most likely be fine to that time. Some of you may have noticed that there is no mention of a gearbox service for the 912 80hp ROTAX 915 IS/ISC . (They should anyway, but) The cost is the same, but you end up with a zero time engine. Rotax aircraft engine servicing and parts, uk ... MAIL ALL OIL AND ANTIFREEZE PRODUCTS MUST BE SENT VIA COURIER UNFORTUNATELY INCREASING THE COST OF POSTAGE. Of course Lame installed but total cost was 85k. . Copyright © Recreational Flying (.com) Read More. So as a replacement, this figure comes off of your new engine price. Advantages are: i) 10,000 litres less fuel burn over the 2,000 hour life of your engine. Originally equipped with carburetors, later versions are fuel injected.Dominating the market for small aircraft and kitplanes, Rotax produced its 50,000th 912-series engine in 2014. The 912 is highly likley to make it's 2000hr TBO and you'll be able to sell it for $5k miniumum when done. I'll probably get $8k or so for it, assuming it's still running strong, so will be no worse off financially than if I had done a rebuild. Rotax 914 UL . Not prepared to go further. Free air cooled cylinders, liquid cooled cylinder heads with integrated pump and expansion tank. Call for price. Technical Documentation; Engine Manuals; Service Bulletins; ROTAX Classes; ROTAX Warranty Period . It doesn't require a top end overhaul at 1000hrs, which fo. All other  servicing is by the book. Now if you had only 200 hrs. If the crank is changed AND A NEW OEM CRANKSHAFT IS INSTALLED, the cost will be $2550. Stats: Rotax 912 ULS 100 HP 200? I use Permatex anti seize on my plug threads. Nev. Professional salesmen; that's what they do for a living. by acensor » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:06 pm, Post by designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:37 pm, Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Limited. Finally, in 2009, Rotax upped the TBO of the 912 series to 2,000 hours, and the following year did the same for the turbocharged 914. The main downside is the scarcity of certified Rotax mechanics. From memory all you get from Floods for a new engine is the engine plus the 4 little exhaust connections to the heads and the oil tank...the rest you must buy. by designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:50 pm, Post I'm told keeping the oil clean (ulp and frequent oil changes) can reduce this cost significantly. Now I suspect there will be a glut of run out engines on the market when it's time. IF they won't pay any extra who'll be able to sell stuff that's better (but more expensive)? Grid List Show. The cost to do an overhaul on a 912 is approximately $12K and that needs to be done at a distributor that has someone qualified to tear it down to the case. I think that will be great for the homebuilt guys. What prices in what currency do you have there now...post them here and who from... All done on the exchange rate (EU/Au) at the time, plus freight, fudge factor for any additional handling (fumigation/paperwork/ etc) plus GST on "the lot". You might do a few % better buying direct, but then you wont be supporting the local people, and they do a good job, by all accounts, and my own personal experience. in 10 years then yes they need rebuilding due to rotting of parts that can cause leaks. He has roots in ultralight flying, so giving him 114 HP is a real kick in the pants. Cost to overhaul a 912? When I get to 1900 I'll order a factory-new one, in the crate, for something like $20k (and am setting aside $10 per flight hour in my TBO Fund). Although the Rotax 900-series got a chilly reception in the 1990s because of its weirdness, it’s really not that weird. Time Between Overhauls (TBO) for Rotax Aircraft Engines Rotax 2-Stroke UL Engines Rotax 4-Stroke UL Engines 912UL 912 ULS 912 ULSFR 914UL 300h / 5 years - February 15, 2021 Anyone in the market for a Rotax can Google potential supplier's, make contact and go from there. The rebuilt one will never be a zero time engine again, but should last well into the 4K hr. ↳   The new Sport Pilot rule makes flying affordable! 1. I guess that is pretty much what I feared it was going to be. We’re the UK distributor for the brilliant Rotax C150 STC which enables you to install a 100 HP Rotax 912 S3 into your Cessna 150. View Details. If upon inspection additional parts are required they will be charged as extra cost items. by designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:19 pm, Post Call for price. I was visiting a guy who is building a kitfox and that was pretty much the advice he was given also. If buying a straight out new one..... something else would probably be sought by me. Powered by Invision Community. I agree with Roger. When it get to its 2000hr TBO, it's not worth much. skippy, "breathtaking" is a bit strong . Rans founder Randy Schlitter told Flying that Rans is now selling the 100 hp Rotax 912 ULS for $17,600, a drop of $600. Thank you! Yep! You can burn 91-93 octane auto gas (ethanol is NOT an issue with Rotax), it's lighter, quieter, smooth-running, and damn-near bullet-proof. Let’s face it, not many years ago two strokes, with 300 hour engines, were the norm. The Rotax 914 is a turbocharged version of the Rotax 912 engine, and the new Rotax 912iS engine is the latest engine from Rotax, with fuel injection and an engine management system (ie. Rotax Engine Servicing for Rotax 912 series of aircraft engines. ( I know there are some that are far more and less). 1500hrs Overhaul required on the majority of engines supplied before 2008, see later section on Overhaul. $20,460. Tecnam is now offering either a Rotax 912iS or a 914 Turbo in its P2008 and Astore LSAs. rotax-915-iS-iSc. My Gen 3 roller cam follower Jab 3300A cost with instruments etc as mentioned above plus an extended prop flange back in March 2013 $18,633.88 inc GST delivered to my hangar door. plus overhaul & repair Rotax 2 stroke. This is what came with my engine which is why I ask. He holds a PhD in Air Transportation Engineering from the University of California, and serves as Director of Maintenance for AvSport of Lock Haven. model xxxx? Naturally there will be a daily (even hourly) variation in the exchange rate but the Eu has remained fairly constant for a few months now. by acensor » Mon Dec 23, 2013 9:05 pm, Post by shasta » Tue Oct 11, 2011 3:14 am, Post In 920 hrs I have never had to "top up" between changes and the amount that comes out, is almost the same as what goes in. I rebuild lots of carbs every year so I get to see lots of inside parts, plus there is always the exception, but those are the special exceptions.. interesting, I never thought of carbs as being a wearable part. I recommend to all my clients when it's close to sell their engine to an experimental owner for $8-$10 and then just buy a new one. by Jim Stewart » Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:49 am, Post says this is only an inspection at 200 hrs. New ROTAX Engines ROTAX® Repairs Genuine ROTAX® Parts. The caveat is that you check the … New Rotax 912UL aircraft engine. Atol Avion has been granted an STC for the installation of the 100 HP Rotax 912 S3 and a constant speed propeller in the Cessna 150 providing the benefits of modern propulsion for one of the world’s most popular aircraft. You have no items in your shopping cart. a year. ↳   Plan on attending the Annual Sport Pilot Expo. My Cart. Here is a question maybe some of you Rotax mechanics can answer, as I seem to be getting many different answers reading online. Plus I added EGTs and a carb temp gauge. by roger lee » Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:27 pm, Post Sign up for a new account in our community. I recommend to all my clients when it's close to sell their engine to an experimental owner for $8-$10 and then just buy a new one. Rotax 912 Shortblock Rebuilds. The cost to do an overhaul on a 912 is approximately $12K and that needs to be done at a distributor that has someone qualified to tear it down to the case. This engine series offers a time between overhauls of 2,000 hrs and the best power to weight ratio in its class - no surprise that this engine is … It got me thinking - The 912iS is Fuel Injected, the 914 is turbocharged but is back to dual carbs. At Eccleston Aviation We specialise in Rotax 2 stroke servicing, repair & overhaul as well as the Rotax 912 series of aircraft engines. Having looked at costs to own a plane (shouldn't really do that anyway) The Rotax whilst higher initial outlay works out cost effective. rotax-912-uls-s. "In January it was $19,495, so … by designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:56 pm, Post Todays price is only a couple of grand more. I installed a 7 row Positech oil cooler & also needed a battery & regulator. Most interesting and informative. I'll say it again.... People buy only on price Paid.. With the options you need when starting from scratch (not change out) is another 7 grand. In comparison to the 80 HP version of the Rotax 912 series the 100 HP product line offers more power while keeping the weight. If you only have 50 hrs on in 5 years then rebuild them. FADEC control). Call for price. View Details. I figure that an oil change can do no harm, may do some good and even though the Sport Plus 4 is expensive (compared with auto oils) 3 litres wont break the bank. Lots of US and Japanese (even) include parts made in China. 35k.....(with carbs..lol) nah, I'll take a pass on that. ROTAX CESSNA 150 – UPGRADE YOUR C150 WITH A MODERN ENGINE. From these figures you can see that if you are operating an aircraft for 50 hours a year which is about average for most pilots, it would take 6 years before a 582 or 618 would need rebuilding, the first time. View Details. Here we have a Rotax 582 "99" that came in for a storage check, it had relatively low hours but the customer wanted it checked due to the prolonged period of time it had sat unused, and he was quite right to do so. The turbo charged Rotax 914 series offers more performance at high altitudes while keeping weight at a low level. I know this can vary greatly but I was curious about what to expect for a major. 2000hrs Current maximum TBO for a 912 or 914 series engine, see later section regarding Overhaul. Kyle - with each engine install being a near costume job, it makes no sense to compare dollar for dollar the finished fly away cost. Sounds more like a time thing (like 5 year rubber) than a hours-used issue. 1200hrs Overhaul required on some older engines, see later section on Overhaul. Happy New Year Everyone! Rotech Motor Ltd. 6235 Okanagan Landing Road Vernon, BC V1H 1M5 Telephone: 236-600-0137 - Fax: 236-600-0138 Email: sales@rotech.ca: 2021 ROTAX Aircraft Engines Price List - current as of 2021-02-19 And of course that exchange rate will vary in regards to the tax component depending on the day rate when the freight hits australia...not what you paid before it left. The 912 would last 20 years before it needed rebuilding. Thats if it makes it to 1000hrs. The experimental folks aren't required to do a rebuild. One $15.00 tube will last a lifetime. The discussion forum for Sport Pilots and Light Sport Aircraft, Post I am sure there will be a glut of high time engines here in a few years. Where a brand name meant something? Good luck with all that - adding $5-7K to the value will have you spending quite a bit more than necessary, That  5 to 7k is aircraft specific items..not the core engine which is only what you buy from the dealer...it has always been that way. The Rotax 912 ULS is a very good super reliable engine but at 35k over the top price wise IMHO. by shasta » Tue Oct 11, 2011 2:18 pm, Post Rotech Motor Ltd. 6235 Okanagan Landing Rd, V1H 1M5 Vernon, BC, Canada Telephone: 1-236-600-0137 Fax: 1-236-600-0138 Instant SSL Since 1989, Rotax has sold more than 46,000 four stroke engines in the 912/914 family (80 to 115 horsepower); that’s nearly 2,000 a year. by designrs » Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:53 pm, Post by drseti » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:05 am, Post It’s just that it has more in common with a water-cooled motorcycle engine than a traditional air-cooled aircraft engine. This is not Jab bashing, I've flown all my training and flying since behind Jabs and they seem a good motor. Overhaul of a Rotax 670. As you point out, could be luck/unlucky on the day the "parcel" hits the docks and the final payment could rise or fall accordingly. The Rotax 912 is a horizontally-opposed four-cylinder, naturally aspirated, four-stroke aircraft engine with a reduction gearbox.It features liquid-cooled cylinder heads and air-cooled cylinders. Take the best care of your motor, monitoring everything for long engine life, then sell the motor honestly to someone who is willing to deal with the TBO / maintence issues, and get yourself a new motor. They have air-cooled cylinders with watercooled heads and a pair of Bing constant velocity carburetors mounted in downdraft manifold configuration do … Dry sump forced lubrication with integrated pump and separate oil tank. Rotax 670 overhauls are $2200. In 2012, the company started shipping a fuel-injected full authority digital engine control version (912 iS). 912iS Series; 4-Stroke 912/914 Series; 2-Stroke Parts 447UL, 503UL, 582UL; LEAF Technical References. KgWislon - As per RF & Kyle from Floods however if you have an European contact, you can probably shave $3k off that, but will depend on the Euro the day you put your money down. It doesn't require a top end overhaul at 1000hrs, which for the Jab is pretty much a bulk strip, not cheap (we we told budget $10K) and it seems most do a full overhaul at this stage. hrs at conversion Heavy Duty Starter Slipper Clutch. Hi Downunder - I choose to do 50 hr oil changes (AeroShell Sport Plus 4) on my Rotax 912 ULS and burn only ULP. Based on the proven concept of the Rotax 912 S/ ULS engine the new 912 iS Sport engine offers all well known advantages of the Rotax 4-stroke engine series complemented by additional features, for example, the engine management system. It does make sense to compare identical systems/modules. admin; October 30 ,2014-Simko’s S7. So what is the price of a 912 ULS fitted (no labour cost) including exhaust system, airbox & filter, CHT, Tacho, oil pressure and temperature gauges & senders? How about a rebuilt Lycoming IO360 for a Mooney M20J 201 that a friend imported from the US after the original engine had major issues after several thousand hours. According to Rotax Service Instruction SI 912-016, you are allowed to use a fuel with up to 10% ethanol (E10) in your Rotax aircraft engine. The 912 engines are four-cylinder powerplants now available in 80- and 100-HP versions, with the turbocharged 914 producing 115 HP. It doesn't require a top end overhaul at 1000hrs, which for the Jab is pretty much a bulk strip, not cheap (we we told budget $10K) and it seems most do a full overhaul at this stage. Thanks! ii) 20% better climb cruise performance due to the constant speed propeller. When the engine was about done just pull it out and sell it.

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